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		<title>By: Laura B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 15 year old daughter&#039;s right hand, pinky and ring finger turned into her palm last August.  The first sign was over one year ago, when we noticed that she couldn&#039;t bend her pinky back.  Now, the two fingers are completely turned in.  She has numbness and tingling when she tries to straighten them or when her arm or neck is touched.  We have been to numerous doctors, several tests including MRI&#039;s of the head, hand, cervical. As well as an EMG and bloodwork with no diagnosis. She is having difficulty writing and participating in gym and sports.  Has anyone experienced this?  There was no known physical injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 15 year old daughter&#039;s right hand, pinky and ring finger turned into her palm last August.  The first sign was over one year ago, when we noticed that she couldn&#039;t bend her pinky back.  Now, the two fingers are completely turned in.  She has numbness and tingling when she tries to straighten them or when her arm or neck is touched.  We have been to numerous doctors, several tests including MRI&#039;s of the head, hand, cervical. As well as an EMG and bloodwork with no diagnosis. She is having difficulty writing and participating in gym and sports.  Has anyone experienced this?  There was no known physical injury.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Grubbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Grubbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can feel all the pain here. I am wondering what has made all of the people that have posted on here to have all the surgery and trouble with the ulnar nerve? 

I was in a car accident that moved all my “junk” around according to my doctor. I had a guy pull out in front of me and I t-boned him going about 45 mph. It broke his car in half and my car drove over the top of his. 

When I went to the ER I found out I had a broke collar bone and a separated shoulder. Many months later I am still in PAIN and a lot if it. In my wrist and elbow. Upon seeing 2 doctors locally nothing was wrong with me. 

So I sought out a doctor a few hours away. Who finds out how many things were not where they were suppose to be in my wrist and elbow.

So the first round of surgery. Triangular Fibrocartilage Complex Repair (TFCC Repair) the ligament was torn,stretched, scared down over the radial head of the bone in wrist. Meaning it’s a ligament on the left side of the wrist that was looped around the right side of my wrist.

So that problem caused me to have de Quervain syndrome which was released.

The pisiform bone had been push into the end of the ulnar nerve and shredded it, and moved it to the joint space in my wrist. So that bone is no longer with me.

The elbow..I had a 3 cm neuroma another torn ligament. Partial release of the ulnar nerve.

Today I get the news that I am headed back to the OR for Cubital tunnal release, and ulnar nerve tanspositioning surgery. So surgery is scheduled for January 8, 2010.

With everything that I have done I am wondering how much pain is involved with this surgery? How was rehab? How long were you off work? Anyone have any other photos. I was so very shocked at the photos on here.

ALL AND ANY INFORMATION IS WELCOMED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can feel all the pain here. I am wondering what has made all of the people that have posted on here to have all the surgery and trouble with the ulnar nerve? </p>
<p>I was in a car accident that moved all my “junk” around according to my doctor. I had a guy pull out in front of me and I t-boned him going about 45 mph. It broke his car in half and my car drove over the top of his. </p>
<p>When I went to the ER I found out I had a broke collar bone and a separated shoulder. Many months later I am still in PAIN and a lot if it. In my wrist and elbow. Upon seeing 2 doctors locally nothing was wrong with me. </p>
<p>So I sought out a doctor a few hours away. Who finds out how many things were not where they were suppose to be in my wrist and elbow.</p>
<p>So the first round of surgery. Triangular Fibrocartilage Complex Repair (TFCC Repair) the ligament was torn,stretched, scared down over the radial head of the bone in wrist. Meaning it’s a ligament on the left side of the wrist that was looped around the right side of my wrist.</p>
<p>So that problem caused me to have de Quervain syndrome which was released.</p>
<p>The pisiform bone had been push into the end of the ulnar nerve and shredded it, and moved it to the joint space in my wrist. So that bone is no longer with me.</p>
<p>The elbow..I had a 3 cm neuroma another torn ligament. Partial release of the ulnar nerve.</p>
<p>Today I get the news that I am headed back to the OR for Cubital tunnal release, and ulnar nerve tanspositioning surgery. So surgery is scheduled for January 8, 2010.</p>
<p>With everything that I have done I am wondering how much pain is involved with this surgery? How was rehab? How long were you off work? Anyone have any other photos. I was so very shocked at the photos on here.</p>
<p>ALL AND ANY INFORMATION IS WELCOMED.</p>
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		<title>By: elaine mcintosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine mcintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my pinky suffered nerve damage in a mva. it took at least a year, but all 

feeling returned. 

This time the damage is in my foot-mva -again and it has been a year, and the pain and tingling remain. But I have faith for a supernatural healing. and a compensatory damage settlement.

A young man was sending a text  message ran a red light  and totalled my car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my pinky suffered nerve damage in a mva. it took at least a year, but all </p>
<p>feeling returned. </p>
<p>This time the damage is in my foot-mva -again and it has been a year, and the pain and tingling remain. But I have faith for a supernatural healing. and a compensatory damage settlement.</p>
<p>A young man was sending a text  message ran a red light  and totalled my car.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Hi everyone. So many responses!

I was not allowed by my lawyers to write about this while I was dealing with stuff related to my accident but now I can. It was also really hard to think more about this in the early days of my healing because just reading about the issue and thinking about it gave me a little nausea. Some part of my body / mind just didn&#039;t want to feel about the accident and surgeries. And, let&#039;s face it , the idea of accepting a permanent problem is not a good one.

I still hold onto hope for full healing but it has been a while since the surgery.

I am in much better shape today. I&#039;ll post a new picture soon and address everyone&#039;s points in another post. I no longer have a claw in my hand and the space between my thumb and pointer finger has filled in a good bit. Western medicine didn&#039;t exactly predict that so who knows what&#039;s possible? The EMGs after the second surgery (which transposed my ulnar nerve to the front of my arm and had a lot of scar tissue pressing on it cut away) showed more nerve activity. I did have to get a second, smaller wedding ring because my fingers shrank so much that the other one was falling off ( our rings were not expensive, just meaningful).

I have some sensation regained but it&#039;s odd. I have temperature in parts of my wrist and hand and some variances of touch but only super-light touch parts of th outside of the hand. Firm pressure only shows up in spots. The conductions slowed down too so that if a glass with a cold drink touches the inside of my wrist the temperature slowly works its way down my 4th and 5th finger.

The thing I miss the most is full grip strength. It&#039;s gone from the entire hand as it was. But I plan to keep using it and hopefully it can return. 

I&#039;m sorry to hear about everyone else troubles with this. I was told that if the nerve had been cleanly cut that re-growth would be more likely. Mine was crushed by a metal grate on a bridge that I fell on (which also cut open my arm/fractured the elbow). So if you cut yours with glass, have hope. the body is unbelievably intelligent and knows how to heal.

Keeping tightness out of the shoulder and neck area is helpful. I still need help with it at times ( my whole left side was impacted in the accident) but i think it helps the nerve.

In general I&#039;d say talk with people who give you hope. Many doctors don&#039;t know how to do that. They&#039;re not necessarily trained in that. And even if it&#039;s not the &quot;scientific answer&quot; to the physical injury it has a lot to do with how you live with what you have. if nothing else this accident taught me experientially that a positive attitude is everything. It&#039;s a way of making a choice even when you feel other choices (eg to use all of your hand) may be gone.

To those who have had to put insurance deductibles and insurance concerns before your health, I am truly sorry. The priorities of the system in the US are completely screwed up. 
Some public hospitals (like sfgh) have sliding scale programs. Law suits are a dumb, shitty substitute for a better system of health care coverage and payment. What&#039;s saddest is that the doctors don&#039;t seem to get paid that much in the system. The whole thing, dealing with bills and craziness (eg thousands for a mile-long ambulance ride) for a couple of years. It&#039;s a relief for it to be over. 

Finally, I&#039;d say it was the Occupational Therapists and Physical Therapists who have been the most practically helpful. They understand quality of life and how the body operates in a way that it seems surgeons do not. They do different things and they have been incredibly helpful to me.

My surgeons were also excellent ( I was surprised to learn that one who assisted was aplastic surgeon. I didn&#039;t know they operated inside arms). But surgeons don&#039;t deal with daily recovery and they&#039;re sense of how things are doing is different that the OTs and PTs. Soft muscle tissue help including bodywork and some kid of PT manipulation really helped with comfort and I believe had an impact on getting some of my recovery.

I have a bunch of video from the accident. I&#039;ve wanted to make a video of the experience and treatment and healing I did have. Reading your replies makes me feel it could be useful to some folks, even to just know you&#039;re not alone.

I also learned that focussing on what I can do (vs what I don&#039;t yet have back)  helps me build up good feeling and the resource to stretch the abilities of my hand.

That&#039;s all the tricks and lessons I can think of for now. Many thanks to everyone who shared their experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Hi everyone. So many responses!</p>
<p>I was not allowed by my lawyers to write about this while I was dealing with stuff related to my accident but now I can. It was also really hard to think more about this in the early days of my healing because just reading about the issue and thinking about it gave me a little nausea. Some part of my body / mind just didn&#039;t want to feel about the accident and surgeries. And, let&#039;s face it , the idea of accepting a permanent problem is not a good one.</p>
<p>I still hold onto hope for full healing but it has been a while since the surgery.</p>
<p>I am in much better shape today. I&#039;ll post a new picture soon and address everyone&#039;s points in another post. I no longer have a claw in my hand and the space between my thumb and pointer finger has filled in a good bit. Western medicine didn&#039;t exactly predict that so who knows what&#039;s possible? The EMGs after the second surgery (which transposed my ulnar nerve to the front of my arm and had a lot of scar tissue pressing on it cut away) showed more nerve activity. I did have to get a second, smaller wedding ring because my fingers shrank so much that the other one was falling off ( our rings were not expensive, just meaningful).</p>
<p>I have some sensation regained but it&#039;s odd. I have temperature in parts of my wrist and hand and some variances of touch but only super-light touch parts of th outside of the hand. Firm pressure only shows up in spots. The conductions slowed down too so that if a glass with a cold drink touches the inside of my wrist the temperature slowly works its way down my 4th and 5th finger.</p>
<p>The thing I miss the most is full grip strength. It&#039;s gone from the entire hand as it was. But I plan to keep using it and hopefully it can return. </p>
<p>I&#039;m sorry to hear about everyone else troubles with this. I was told that if the nerve had been cleanly cut that re-growth would be more likely. Mine was crushed by a metal grate on a bridge that I fell on (which also cut open my arm/fractured the elbow). So if you cut yours with glass, have hope. the body is unbelievably intelligent and knows how to heal.</p>
<p>Keeping tightness out of the shoulder and neck area is helpful. I still need help with it at times ( my whole left side was impacted in the accident) but i think it helps the nerve.</p>
<p>In general I&#039;d say talk with people who give you hope. Many doctors don&#039;t know how to do that. They&#039;re not necessarily trained in that. And even if it&#039;s not the &#034;scientific answer&#034; to the physical injury it has a lot to do with how you live with what you have. if nothing else this accident taught me experientially that a positive attitude is everything. It&#039;s a way of making a choice even when you feel other choices (eg to use all of your hand) may be gone.</p>
<p>To those who have had to put insurance deductibles and insurance concerns before your health, I am truly sorry. The priorities of the system in the US are completely screwed up.<br />
Some public hospitals (like sfgh) have sliding scale programs. Law suits are a dumb, shitty substitute for a better system of health care coverage and payment. What&#039;s saddest is that the doctors don&#039;t seem to get paid that much in the system. The whole thing, dealing with bills and craziness (eg thousands for a mile-long ambulance ride) for a couple of years. It&#039;s a relief for it to be over. </p>
<p>Finally, I&#039;d say it was the Occupational Therapists and Physical Therapists who have been the most practically helpful. They understand quality of life and how the body operates in a way that it seems surgeons do not. They do different things and they have been incredibly helpful to me.</p>
<p>My surgeons were also excellent ( I was surprised to learn that one who assisted was aplastic surgeon. I didn&#039;t know they operated inside arms). But surgeons don&#039;t deal with daily recovery and they&#039;re sense of how things are doing is different that the OTs and PTs. Soft muscle tissue help including bodywork and some kid of PT manipulation really helped with comfort and I believe had an impact on getting some of my recovery.</p>
<p>I have a bunch of video from the accident. I&#039;ve wanted to make a video of the experience and treatment and healing I did have. Reading your replies makes me feel it could be useful to some folks, even to just know you&#039;re not alone.</p>
<p>I also learned that focussing on what I can do (vs what I don&#039;t yet have back)  helps me build up good feeling and the resource to stretch the abilities of my hand.</p>
<p>That&#039;s all the tricks and lessons I can think of for now. Many thanks to everyone who shared their experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi fellow claw-handers! I&#039;m a 27 year old male who works doing plumbing. I also have a B. A. in Philosophy and have lots to say on Science and Faith. Anyway, I severed my ulnar nerve along with all my tendons four months ago when a toilet I was working on broke. I had a three hour surgery the next day that I was permited to watch. It was amazing how exact and precise the two surgeons were. Just one hundred years ago I would be left a cripple. The reason I am writing is to say that just four months post op even though I still have pretty bad clawing and a weakened hand I can already do almost everything I need to. I am also already able to feel some nerve sensation at the tip of my pinky finger. I am pretty confident I am going to make an almost full recovery. I attribute this to my age, my health, my active lifestyle, my awesome doctors, and the prayers of others. I also wanted to respond to the people above injured at work; always consult an attorney. I wish you all a full recovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi fellow claw-handers! I&#039;m a 27 year old male who works doing plumbing. I also have a B. A. in Philosophy and have lots to say on Science and Faith. Anyway, I severed my ulnar nerve along with all my tendons four months ago when a toilet I was working on broke. I had a three hour surgery the next day that I was permited to watch. It was amazing how exact and precise the two surgeons were. Just one hundred years ago I would be left a cripple. The reason I am writing is to say that just four months post op even though I still have pretty bad clawing and a weakened hand I can already do almost everything I need to. I am also already able to feel some nerve sensation at the tip of my pinky finger. I am pretty confident I am going to make an almost full recovery. I attribute this to my age, my health, my active lifestyle, my awesome doctors, and the prayers of others. I also wanted to respond to the people above injured at work; always consult an attorney. I wish you all a full recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah i lost feeling in my pinkie and i rub it and it does hurt and people say the same thing to me but I think my nerve will heal up, god has healed the pink cut which was cut in half and i could see the bone god healed it in 1 week. IM starting to feel my finger alot more and I can move it alot too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah i lost feeling in my pinkie and i rub it and it does hurt and people say the same thing to me but I think my nerve will heal up, god has healed the pink cut which was cut in half and i could see the bone god healed it in 1 week. IM starting to feel my finger alot more and I can move it alot too.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having the same problem after falling and cutting my palm on glass. I have &quot;pins and needles&quot; throughout my ring finger and pinkie, I cannot feel my pinkie at all and the outside of my ring finger as well as the front and back outside part of my hand. I would really like to talk to anyone who has had this problem via email. I do have a myspace account if anyone is interested in talking to me about this. www.myspace.com/whendj  
I just injured myself new years day, so I am hoping maybe the feeling will come back eventually. I would like to hear more about what you have been through, I would also love to hear some success stories too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having the same problem after falling and cutting my palm on glass. I have &#034;pins and needles&#034; throughout my ring finger and pinkie, I cannot feel my pinkie at all and the outside of my ring finger as well as the front and back outside part of my hand. I would really like to talk to anyone who has had this problem via email. I do have a myspace account if anyone is interested in talking to me about this. <a href="http://www.myspace.com/whendj" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/whendj</a><br />
I just injured myself new years day, so I am hoping maybe the feeling will come back eventually. I would like to hear more about what you have been through, I would also love to hear some success stories too!</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia Briguglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia Briguglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had my surgery Oct 2008, after much discussion with the insurance carrier. My fingers are somewhat straighter, but I am one year plus post injury and still have zero feeling in the pinkie and ring fingers and on the palm side of my hand and little feeling on the outside of the hand! 
I have developed Complex Regional Pain Syndrome from the original injury that has spread to my hip also. I am fighting for a wheelchair as I am quite unsteady on my feet, and fall often</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had my surgery Oct 2008, after much discussion with the insurance carrier. My fingers are somewhat straighter, but I am one year plus post injury and still have zero feeling in the pinkie and ring fingers and on the palm side of my hand and little feeling on the outside of the hand!<br />
I have developed Complex Regional Pain Syndrome from the original injury that has spread to my hip also. I am fighting for a wheelchair as I am quite unsteady on my feet, and fall often</p>
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		<title>By: simeon mcclain</title>
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		<dc:creator>simeon mcclain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sooooooooo glad I read your letter. I have had the same problem as you for over 20 years. You should see the hole between my thumb and finger. I to have no use in my last to fingers. I really have a claw hand, with the last two fingers bent with no feeling at all. I also relieve that someone has the same problem as I. Keep the faith. If you have any ideas maybe I can get help. my hand is getting worse!!! Take care and God bless you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sooooooooo glad I read your letter. I have had the same problem as you for over 20 years. You should see the hole between my thumb and finger. I to have no use in my last to fingers. I really have a claw hand, with the last two fingers bent with no feeling at all. I also relieve that someone has the same problem as I. Keep the faith. If you have any ideas maybe I can get help. my hand is getting worse!!! Take care and God bless you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dog bite severed my ulnar nerve.  I&#039;m having a nerve graft surgery in two days.  The doctor expects me to regain sensation in my hand, but not the motor function.  He suggested doing a tendon transfer surgery to improve my grip, but it just sounds horrible.  My right hand looks just like the hand pictured.  I&#039;m uninsured, suing, and hoping for the best.  Anyone else had the tendon transfer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dog bite severed my ulnar nerve.  I&#039;m having a nerve graft surgery in two days.  The doctor expects me to regain sensation in my hand, but not the motor function.  He suggested doing a tendon transfer surgery to improve my grip, but it just sounds horrible.  My right hand looks just like the hand pictured.  I&#039;m uninsured, suing, and hoping for the best.  Anyone else had the tendon transfer?</p>
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